Top Reasons Why People Hate The 2020 Corvette

"PatBateman" (PatBateman) 07/19/2019 at 17:14 • Filed to: c8, shitpost

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No Manuel.

TeH eNgInE iS iN tEh WrOnG pLaCe

HoOd tOo ShOrT

No ThReE pRoNg StEeRiNg WhEeLz

ReAr EnD dOeSn’T lOoK lIkE a FeRrArI

LoOkS tOo MuCh LiKe A fErRaRi

BuTtOnS

And finally,

BoOmErS lulz

gettingoldercarguy > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:17

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way2blu does a rev update > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:18

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ToYoTA dIdN’t bAdGE eNGiNeEr iT aS aN mR2

Discerning > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:20

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Not a real corvette!

Bring back dated looking round taillights, carbs, rear drum brakes, and fiberglass that cracks and spider webs if you look at it wrong!

jimz > Discerning 07/19/2019 at 17:22

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And give it a wheezy six cylinder engine out of a base model truck.

PatBateman > gettingoldercarguy 07/19/2019 at 17:22

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PatBateman > Discerning 07/19/2019 at 17:24

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“Change scares me!”

TorqueToYield > Discerning 07/19/2019 at 17:24

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Also a 200 horsepower V8 that gets 15 mpg.

Saracen > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:24

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I love how  they addressed the whining about it not being able to carry golf clubs.

PatBateman > Saracen 07/19/2019 at 17:27

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“Quit your bitching, the golf bag fits, you old fucks.”

Urambo Tauro > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:27

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Let’s be clear: Engine placement is a valid reason to disapprove of the name, but NOT to hate on the car itself. Give it an other name, and this car is freaking awesome. I f there’s anything worth complaining about, it’s probably got some atrocious blind spots.

For Sweden > Discerning 07/19/2019 at 17:29

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This but unironically

For Sweden > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:30

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I’m already preparing for the mid-engine 911 takes when that finally happens.

i86hotdogs > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:31

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What concerns me is the low price and the high risk of snap oversteer .

The same kiddos wrecking scat packs and heckcats will now wreck these not knowing how to handle a mid engined car.

Discerning > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 17:32

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I don’t have time for irony, payless is going out of business and they have a limited number of discounted New Balance shoes left for sale.

Am I doing this right?

PatBateman > Urambo Tauro 07/19/2019 at 17:33

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I see the engine placement as a natural evolution. It gives room for a performance hybrid setup and, eventually, an all electric platform. It’ll probably handle like it’s on rails, too.

The same was said about Ford going to an all aluminum body and a TT V6 as it’s top half ton engine selection.   

PS9 > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:34

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I really cannot believe they are selling this thing for any 5 figure price, nevermind $60k. How did they do it? Deal with satan? Jelly and cardboard where the chassis is supposed to be? Engine sold separately?

The real game changer isn’t that we have a mid engined vette now, but that you can get a genuine (almost) no-comprom ise supercar for a non-unobtanium price, brand new, no conditions. If it is only 80% as good as a 488 it would still be a huge win. 

PatBateman > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 17:36

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The Porsche 911 is a mainstay, and probably won’t be the C8’s primary cross-shopping rival. With that said, you bet your ass people will be comparing them. 

For Sweden > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:37

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I mean when Porsche starts building mid-engine 911s.

PatBateman > i86hotdogs 07/19/2019 at 17:37

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They’ll wreck out anyways.  Look a few posts down for the two older Vettes drag racing and losing control. 

Discerning > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 17:39

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A mid engine 911 with the turbo 9a2 would be fantastic.

PatBateman > PS9 07/19/2019 at 17:42

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GM probably dumped more money than it has ever spent to develop this setup. They’ll make money in the long term, but they already have a fantastic existing suspension system (magnetic ride control), engines (even though the engine is “new”, it’s still a N/A V8), and are probably getting one hell of a discount on the DCT considering the sheer volume they’ll sell from Tremec.

The higher end versions to come will be their money makers. 

gettingoldercarguy > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 17:42

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It’s pronounced cay-man

PatBateman > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 17:44

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I keep thinking the 911 is a mid-engine and not a rear engine.  ¯\_()_/¯ 

Urambo Tauro > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:44

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Evolution from what though ? E ngine placement is a fundamental aspect of vehicle architecture, and this is a radical departure from the C7 . Too much to be a “descendant” or successive “generation” of the Co rvette . It’s its own thing, an awesome thing, and it’s a shame GM won’t let it make a name for itself.

Maxima Speed > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 17:50

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So here’s my take. I love the IDEA of the car. I live what it is when it comes to price, numbers, etc. what I absolutely despise it the styling. Looks like an off- brand hot-wheels from the dollar store.

CRider > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 17:52

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Has anyone actually seen the engine on a 911 in the last decade? How do we know it's not actually mid engined? 

PatBateman > Urambo Tauro 07/19/2019 at 17:53

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We’re in the last decade or so of the ICE Age. Many hyper cars are now performance hybrids. KERS systems. That tech rolls downhill. Even if we don’t go the route of all electric vehicles in the next 15 years, technology is changing the vehicles we drive.

I think GM is ripping the band aid off now instead of in the future.  The front engine design wouldn’t be a good fit for adding electric motors (which I firmly believe is the reason why they have a rear trunk as well, to fit electric motors up front).

CRider > Urambo Tauro 07/19/2019 at 17:56

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There’s nothing that says a Corvette needs the engine in front. GM has been toying with the idea of going rear-mid since the beginning of the Corvette. This is a Corvette, and it would still be a Corvette by any other name. The LT2 engine is there, the ability to lug around golf clubs (gag) is there, the ability to finance one for 8 years is  there... It’s a Corvette.

Discerning > i86hotdogs 07/19/2019 at 17:56

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People will always wreck something they aren’t up to handle. Even those who can handle it will still make mistakes.

That said, I imagine this will have a tremendous amount of ways for the computer to save the driver. Between the eLSD and the countless modes they showed, it is probably good at protecting drivers with poor sense.

For Sweden > CRider 07/19/2019 at 17:58

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o_o

PatBateman > Maxima Speed 07/19/2019 at 18:00

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Not liking the design is a decent reason for disliking the C8. That boils down to individual tastes. But isn’t that one of the major complaints that has plagued GM? Look at all the Cadillac concepts for the past 15 years. Radically designed, completely new, and never made. And GM caught hell for not making them, too.

I could be wrong, but I think more people would be pissed if Chevy has come out with a slightly redesigned version of the Corvette instead of actually going with the radical change they chose.  Time will tell, though.  

i86hotdogs > Discerning 07/19/2019 at 18:13

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It will be a different kind of crash. Instead of Scat Packs with 245 tires breaking grip in 4th gear, we’ll have a lot of tails whipping out smacking traffic trying to rip a turn onto woodward.

i86hotdogs > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 18:14

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Exactly. I almost wish they upped the price to prevent kids my age with decent income from acquiring one.

DipodomysDeserti > Urambo Tauro 07/19/2019 at 18:19

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I mean, that’s kind of GM’ s thing. At least they made it better this time.

404 - User No Longer Available > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 18:21

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I’ll wait for the inevitable tuners and kit cars and reserve judgement till then.

random001 > PS9 07/19/2019 at 18:30

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Two words: Corvette Racing. A lot of the tech to build this was developed by that program.

Aso, they'll break even or lose money on the base model, but take it in on options.  Z51 will be the most checked box.  Grand Sports will be next.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 19:07

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I just personally think it’s badly styled, it is good that it’s cheap though. I don’t care if a Vette has a mid or front engine. I really like 63' Vettes, not really into modern cars so it’s just down to design for me. I’m sure it’s faster than anyone ever needs it to go.  I think the amateur designers on the web had some better ideas, they are not all perfect but they would be a better place to start for me. This one here has some side vents and a C7ish front, I really don’t like the pointy C8 front, or the Camaro rear, it’s all a mess for me.

OmerCarrothers333 > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 19:10

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Am I the only person that does not give a shit about the new Corvette?

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > i86hotdogs 07/19/2019 at 19:49

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I thought mid engined was less prone to those types of shenanigans?  

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > For Sweden 07/19/2019 at 21:16

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Ahem.

They’ve been racing mid engine 911s for a couple years now. Will they change the street car? Dunno. I’d thi nk it’d mean losing the rear seats. At this point the 911 is more of a GT, so that would be a heck of a change. I’d bet we just keep seeing more powerful Caymans. That said, I’d be down with a 911 RSR road car.

Just Jeepin' > OmerCarrothers333 07/19/2019 at 21:56

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I didn’t, but I must admit the price is interesting. I can get a super car for the same price as a Gladiator? I’d still rather have the Gladiator. I think. But it’s an interesting dilemma.

Not that I’ll actually buy either. Maybe lease a Gladiator next year.

wafflesnfalafel > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 21:59

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Very accurate. It is a great looking car, honestly much better than I thought it would be. I wish it had round taillights but I can get passed  that. I don’t see myself buying one w/o the manual, but I completely understand I am in the small minority on that issue and GM made a sound business decision.

Axial > PS9 07/19/2019 at 22:02

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They are simply revealing how much the luxury marques have been overcharging for absolute garbage.

Ugly shapes aside, the fit, finish, materials, and engineering in this car look to be second to literally nobody. You can buy an R8 at twice the price and still have shitty plastic everywhere.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > PatBateman 07/19/2019 at 22:05

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I would guess, There were mid engien design studies made in late 00s for the C7, and in addition since the c7 release was pushed back 3 years, they had the team working on the slowburner on the next gen.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > CRider 07/19/2019 at 22:12

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By this point the engine has moved practically between the rear wheels. 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc 07/19/2019 at 22:19

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Mid-mounted engine vehicles have a much lower rotational inertia than vehicles with a front-mounted or rear-mounted engine. The lower rotational inertia of mid-mounted engine vehicles causes the vehicle to spin much faster than a front or rear mounted engine vehicle. If unexpected, it can catch the driver off guard when cornering, ultimately leading to loss of control of the vehicle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_oversteer

coqui70 > i86hotdogs 07/19/2019 at 23:20

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Oooohhh ... the car chases in H-town are going to be majestic. Texas DPS troopers are going to have to invest in something like this but ‘Murican ...

pip bip - choose Corrour > PatBateman 07/20/2019 at 06:29

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other than the lack of a manual, it’s fine

arl > Maxima Speed 07/20/2019 at 07:12

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LOL, totally agree about the dollar store thing. Maybe it looks better in person? But holy hell, the rear end is a design mess.

I like mid engine cars. I almost died a few times when snap oversteeer threw me around in my friends old MR2 (with like 110hp). I can only image the shenanigans people are going get themselves into with a high horse power Vette.

PanchoVilleneuve ST > PatBateman 07/20/2019 at 08:42

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I’m gonna love getting one at an estate sale in 10 years when all the boomers that bought first year C8s as an investment kick off and the market is so flooded with low-mileage, well cared for examples since almost every one they sell will be purchased like this.

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > i86hotdogs 07/20/2019 at 11:47

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The last 15 years have been the greatest era for the performance car consumer.

I certainly hope your concern does n’t get any traction. Last time the manufacturers got shamed into getting out of th e perfor ma nc e car market it took 30 years to recover.

i86hotdogs > John Norris (AngryDrifter) 07/20/2019 at 12:55

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I am not attacking the manufacturer. We consumer need to be les s stupid. Keep the cheap speed coming, I’ll just avoid Dearborn and Woodward for a while.

superdave847 > For Sweden 07/20/2019 at 15:53

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It sorta already did with the change of proportions back  on the 991, that engine keeps creeping forward.

superdave847 > For Sweden 07/20/2019 at 15:54

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T he Cayman GT4 is close--but even that entry level Porsche GT car starts at $99k.

Axial > Maxima Speed 07/21/2019 at 02:46

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You might find this analysis of the C8's design an interesting read. The author worked on the design of the C1 and the original version of the C2 that was supposed to come out in the late ‘50s but didn’t.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-mid-engine-design-analysis/

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > PatBateman 09/05/2019 at 14:24

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I kinda wish it wasn’t quite so angular and a bit more organic in shape, but I’ll wait to see one in person to make that call. 

PatBateman > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 09/05/2019 at 14:27

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The design had been straightening out from organic curves to a more stealth fighter -esque design for the past few generations.  I’d like to see it in person as well before I pass final judgement.  But so far, I’m digging it all. 

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > PatBateman 09/05/2019 at 15:57

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Yup. I think it’s a winner too. Don’t even care about the auto-only issue either. 

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > PatBateman 10/30/2019 at 11:05

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In the picture you used, it looks like a cheap kit car with horrible, horrible proportions/angles.

PatBateman > Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) 10/30/2019 at 12:42

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I actually chose it because it did look wonky.